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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2004, 12:13:30 PM »

Songman, I hope to see you around one day...Just to see if your the kind of guy that gives the finger from the safety of your car or the comfort of your computer screen or the protection of a telephone.  This beefing on the net is something I never thought I'd stoop to and am going to stop now.

Perhaps the day will come where my question will be answered....You have a good one.

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2004, 12:20:00 PM »

I'll tell you right now.. No straddling the fence. I am not the kind of guy who talks trash from the safety of anywhere... Unfortunately, that is not how the majority of people are on the net. I was taught right from wrong. I was taught respect. And I was taught to defend those things, with words first and more if provoked. You can think this is a 'net beef' all you want, but the BS you have thrown at me is real and I am ready to handle it for real. It never had to come to this but you kept on pushing. You made a deal with me long ago and didn't keep it. I value character and I am not seeing it here yet. It's on you. You can choose to go either way. I'll either let it go if you actually keep the promise you made to me. I'm a nice guy when people do right. Or I'm ready to handle it the other way too... You decide. I'm here whenever you are decide.
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2004, 12:47:25 PM »

As Ron just recently posted, there are, nor never have been any "working outs" between the two.  You out and out lied about that. 

Furthermore, it's funny you even say that becasue I sat quietly as you over and over blamed Modena for Scotts actions and non actions.  Never addressing the issues but deflecting it on me as you claim to be only trying to help out.  Every simgle opportunity your little mind had to bring my name, who had NOTHING to even do with the deal, could think of...You blamed me.

It is BS.  Just like your LIE about how if I would remain out of it, they could move forward in their resolve.

As Ron just recently posted, there are, nor never have been any "working outs" between the two.

To blame me for Scott is like blaming Rodney King for the LA riots because he may have been high.

This "keeping your word" stuff sounds so noble but I don't buy it.  If that one comment about having John do you next car pissed you off this much then whatever.  I seem to remember a post you made on this forum about how I got "banned" over there because "...the moderator knew me for who I was from over here".  All on another site entirely....Now you tell me which one of us has the time to follow the other around trying to start static?  Do you think I have the time to follow your every move?

Dale theres but one way to end this...Have Scott fix his "mistakes" immediately.  Theres no amount of talk that can square up these deals.  The forum wants tracking numbers and trips to Mail Boxes Etc.  You want everything public except your car and the deal itself.  Ron already said he'd be glad to send Scott the parts if he thought Scott would do his part...now why dont you have Ron send you Scotts parts and why dont you see to it Ron get his parts the Ron can post "I got my parts from Scott" publically?  Why dont you do the same for everybody thats fallen victim to these "mistakes".  You can't defend Scott, minimalize the "misunderstandings".  At some point you have to say either "I dont know the truth" or "I dont want to beleive the truth" or something.  Do you think everybodies conspiring to give Scott a bad name? 

SCOTT IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF.  YOU KNOW IT, WE ALL KNOW IT.  Have him fix it and stop blaming me for saying this, blame Scott for taking no action.

Now can tracking numbers be posted?  Yes or No?  I'm sure Scott needs his name cleared.

You wan't me to shut up?  Post Scott's tracking #'s  Just try it.  I think I have pretty civilized convo's with everyone on here but you.

I've made my mistakes and so have you.  Now just post tracking #'s

tracking #'s

tracking #'s

It's really quite simple...tracking #'s=peace on the forum.  The balls in your court since you're mediating for Scott, he's not said a word.

As far as our beef, it will not be public.
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2004, 01:03:15 PM »

What did I lie about? I didn't say there was anything worked out between Ron and Scott? I did say that THEY needed to work it out without your constant posts.

I never blamed you for Scott's mistakes. But I did say that you trying to play it out here in the court of public opinion made it harder on everyone.. Big difference... And my little mind never even thinks about you, nor do I mention you, until you post some unrelated slam at Scott in any thread you can think of.. It's really not even about Scott. It is about being tired of your stupid posts trying to slam him.

You saying you would stay out of it came long before anything about John doing my car. You never did stay out of it even though I kept my part of the deal posting a message saying you were an okay guy. Talk about not responding to an issue... You keep skipping over that and trying to talk about how bad Scott is.

Yes, I did say you were banned on the other forum.. You were... Sadly, it had nothing to do with you being an ass here and it was just a mistake. But you are still an ass here. If Karma was working you would see just how much people think so. I only have one vote  and have never tried to get anyone to think one way or the other about you.

I don't have Scott do anything. One more time for the people on the short bus.. I am not involved with Scott in that way. I am trying to get Scott and Ron together away from this forum and your stupid comments so they can get something done. Both of them are now at an impasse because of all of this BS.. Ron doesn't want to send Scott what he owes him, and apparently Scott doesn't want to send Ron what he owes him either. I don't know this to be true because I haven't asked him. Ron has said here that he does have parts he owes Scott but will not send them because of the situation.

Scott is the smart one here for not playing your stupid games. I've got too much of a temper to let you talk sh*t about me unanswered. Ron's deal is with Scott... My deal is with you. How about you leave the two of them alone to work out their deal and you can work on your deal with me? You don't want our business played out in public but your damn sure stick your nose into everyone else's to be played out in public. What's the matter? You have something to hide? It will be played out right here, just like you make everyone else's be played out here.

And as I said, the 'beef' between you and me. That is the only one I am concerned about. And the ball is definitely not in my court. It is in yours and I see how you intend to play it.. So you just tell me when and where.. Or shut the hell up. I don't care if you 'go to sleep', 'make coffee', or any of the other things you say that you think are so witty. Either keep your deal with me and stop with the snow jobs or lets just get it done... And yes, it will be public. I may even post pictures! Obviously you can't help running your mouth so I will be looking forward to it.

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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2004, 01:27:36 PM »

um...you were to fix this with tracking numbers, were babbling about everything else.

Remember we both want an end to this.  Like Bush, i'll stay on point.

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2004, 01:31:13 PM »

Just like I just told you on the phone... this ain't got a thing to do with tracking numbers. I have volunteered to transport the owed parts both ways.. Now all THEY have to do is agree on it.. And then you can butt out and keep your promise.

And like you said on the phone "You're a country mother f*(&^@ , ain't you?" Damn right. And in the country we value people keeping their word. All you gotta do is do it.. Keeping my word is a given for me.

I thought you were a Kerry man anyway?
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2004, 01:38:36 PM »

"this has nothing to do with tracking numbers"<<<< did he just say this?

I think tracking numbers will fix everything Dale.  Scott and Ron both need to send what they owe.

And yes Dale called me talking about mattresses, the car that I didnt buy, and plain ranting about everything he could think of...as I explained to him that having Scott make good would be the easiest way for him to rebuild Scotts image.

He unfortunately didn't get it.  It's hopeless people, on talk with Dale and you'll see.
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2004, 01:53:43 PM »

Delusional... I simply said stay out of it and let them fix it... And yes, I did say tracking numbers had nothing to do with it. I've offered to be the messenger boy. And I don't use tracking numbers.

He kept on asking me about tracking numbers.. When I said once again that I am not in business with Scott, he just continued his attack. He is apparently just tired of people ripping people off... So when I asked him about winning the bid of a car on eBay and then not following through, he hung up on me... As long as the pressure is on Scott it is different apparently.

As I said before, he wants the 'beef' between my country ass and him to be hidden, but insists that everyone else's is played out in public... I don't think so... You're no better than anyone else to have it aired in public.
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2004, 03:44:12 PM »

More smoke and mirrors...messenger boy?

The issue isnt for you to drive to Ron's to grab Scott's parts,  it's for you to get Scott to mail Ron and DJ their stuff get it?  Remember Scotts "mistakes"? 

We all know Ron doesnt need to keep the silly Vette part for a Vette Ron doesnt own.  Ron has said to you a million times that he will send Scott his item as soon as Scott posts a tracking number.   Why can't a swell guy such as yourself merely have Scott send the Ferrari parts that are owed to Ron that Scott can easily resell for a greater profit than he's already made...your mind get that Dale?  The tracking numbers I'm reffering to is the tracking numbers that Scott will get when he sends out everybodys stuff.  Maybe I'm just missing it....maybe youre driving to Taiwan like to hand deliver DJ and everyones parts personally.

I'll even bet that if you asked Ron to send you Scotts part even first if you would take responsibilty to ensure that Ron will get his box in full he'd gladly do it.  You dont get why Ron doesnt want to send more stuff to a guy that never sends anything? 

Dale wan't wants to use the "country ass" and "North Georgia boy" remark over and over again to anger anyone out there who feel the need to gang up and to get me to respond to it so he can run and tattle to John to get him pissed off at me knowing John is in North Georgia.  He want's so bad to be able to tell John to stop my build.  I instructed John to keep Dale away from my car when I found out Dale was out there.  Thats the kind of guy Dale is...a shallow snake...Who will get in bed with a devil to reach an objective.  He's very simple to read.

This is the kind of guy your dealing with....

Just imagine me having to tell John to have a grown man to stay away from my car cause he may slip a Snickers in the gas tank.  I even told John to let Dave drive my car when he was there.  John asked me if it was OK and I said  "sure!"

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2004, 04:43:26 PM »

I'll make this very simple so you can understand it.. You are a liar. I know it. You know it. And all it takes is a simple phone call to verify it.

See you on the 23rd?
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2004, 05:03:44 PM »

we should just forget all this and just go out and buy another windshield

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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2004, 05:09:13 PM »

I instructed John to keep Dale away from my car when I found out Dale was out there. Thats the kind of guy Dale is...a shallow snake...Who will get in bed with a devil to reach an objective. He's very simple to read.

This is the kind of guy your dealing with....

Just imagine me having to tell John to have a grown man to stay away from my car cause he may slip a Snickers in the gas tank. I even told John to let Dave drive my car when he was there. John asked me if it was OK and I said "sure!"



Pete,
Come on now, please use discresion when throwing out heavy accuisations like this. Now, I do not know you or Dale anymore than the man on the moon in person(just from conversating on the forum and emails and such).

I highly doubt that anybody's main objective would be to intentionally sabotage your build. I do, however, know John personally and have been to his shop on several occasions. I CANNOT see (1) Dale actually doing the above stated and (2) John tolerating any such behavior on his premesis because your car's well being is solely his liability right now. I do also know that John and Dale are aquainted and Dale would never do something that would leave a bad taste in ALL of our mouths. Sabotage would affect all of us here and the way John does business with us. That would never stand to happen.

I do not like to get involved with other people's conflicts, but I just see what I see, and a few things have been stated in this thread that may be concidered as threats and heavy accusations. Also, I do realize that emotions are running high right now but this is a family forum so vulgarities should be kept to a minimum or completely ommited Lips Sealed.

I, personally, do not take offense to this, and I talk like a truck driver in the garage, but some may find this offensive so lets all please try to respect that and the guidelines set forth by Ari.

Thank you all.

Happy arguing Grin

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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2004, 05:35:43 PM »

I'm with you, Bob... I don't like this stuff any more than anyone else does.. I offered to stop but he decided against it and chose to drop some more lies... If this progresses to the end that we are talking about, it will be a last resort for me. But I will do there if needs be.. That is his choice. My entire point has been to keep the stuff off the forum and let these men handle their own business.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2004, 05:41:20 PM »

Bob asking John to tell Dale to stay away from my car isnt an accusation dude.

It's how I feel, I dont like him nor do I trust him....birds of a feather.  I didnt want him close to my car and thats my perrogative.  Period.  I make no appologies for not trusting a guy like this.

This will be my last post on this thread.

Now watch and see what happens...

within a few days it will be Modena this Modena that.

Ron and DJ will still be needing tracking numbers.

But I'm thru with it.
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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2004, 06:01:30 PM »

Bob asking John to tell Dale to stay away from my car isnt an accusation dude.

It's how I feel, I dont like him nor do I trust him....birds of a feather.  I didnt want him close to my car and thats my perrogative.  Period.  I make no appologies for not trusting a guy like this.

But the funny thing is that he made those accusations LAST NIGHT but he acts like he made them a month ago when I was in GA... And he was told in short order that I was not like that.. But he fails to mention all of that when he is trying to discredit me... Besides that, anyone can make accusations. Having a reason to make them is different, and he has no reason to think that about me. Just looks good on the forum, or so he thinks...

I hope we can trust him to keep his word and no longer post on this subject... If he does, I'll do the same and we can start enjoying the forum again maybe...
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