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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2008, 10:34:52 AM » |
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yes as mentioned earlier they where based on the Honda Accord then later to the ford vetec, audi TT braking ,
The a hood was available as the car here in UK has one, only problem was it was a inch not wide enough, the company cut it down the centre and made it wider. The back window was a slide in panel,
I am also told that when you sat in it your feet were resting on the fuel tank up front.
I'd build a chassis if I could or adapter another, the Attack was awesome
For the SVA here you had a cover to put over the shocks showing through the front bonnet
waiting eagerly for a price
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2008, 04:06:26 PM » |
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Wow, seriously...
I am glad that I may be able to help some friends here in building a car that they've liked for a while. I had no idea this vehicle was so popular!
Well, I don't know where to start, so I'll just start:
US or UK?
-I live here in California USA, I am sure that a package could be shipped over seas if someone would pay for it?
Price?
-I honestly didn't think that this car was so popular when I posted this last night, I guess I will need to start pricing out fiberglass shops to do the layup for me. I am not huge into fiberglass, so anyone is welcome to correct me if I mis-speak, but I understand that there are two ways of "fiberglassing". Hand laid and "chopper gun". I know that chopper guns are faster and cheaper, and they make some boats and bath tubs and other fiberglass pieces using this method, but hand laid is a better quality?
This car is for all who are interested... you tell me what you want, and I'll go find your prices.
Chassis?
-To my knowledge, these are all of the molds for the fiberglass pieces and not any chassis jigs or anything. I can only assume that with something like 33 pieces, this would include the interior as well and seats and whatever else is fiberglass. So chassis? Its whatever all of you want. I am sure that this can be fit to almost any car if one really wanted... but seriously, if enough people are interested, I guess I can modify certain parts of the body and get new molds for those pieces to fit a specific donor vehicle if everyone would agree on which donor they would want.
Carbon Fiber?
I have let you know my back ground, and if you are interested and want certain parts of the car in carbon fiber, that would be no problem. As for making the entire vehicle out of carbon, I wasn't planning on really building one of these, but if there is interest in it, or if I have some available time in the future, I guess I could knock one out "just to show the world!". I guess I would have to build it all the way though, as I wouldn't want that big of a sculpture for no reason.
Lets re-cap:
-I am in the USA
-The price is to be determined by all of you who are interested, what method do you want, and how much do you think it should really cost? So I can get an idea of what prices to be shooting for.
-I don't believe there is a chassis jig, so lets decide what donor all of you want to use, and if there is enough interest, I will consider modifying and getting some new molds of a body to fit it for a "bolt-on" application.
-I am a carbon composite lamination engineer, any carbon you need, just ask... maybe in the future I'll build one fully carbon?
-And lets keep Mikes wife up in prayer, there is no sickness in the Kingdom!
Questions, comments, or whatever... I am here for all of you,
-Hughes
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2008, 05:16:05 PM » |
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Hey Hughes thanks for the kind words for my wife. Understand that I disqualified myself as a buyer early on.....but I can give you all the advice you can stand!  A friend of mine is doing two original builds now and is behind schedule on the first due mainly to me and another guy.....who will agree that we have delayed the project. With that said, this friend of mine was a strong advocate of hand laid glass and would not even think of doing anything any other way......until one of his friends who owns a boat manufacturing facility ask him to lay up a door, then bring the mold to his shop so he could chop the same door. He was told to keep track of the cost and the time. Fast forward.....he arrives at the glass place and they chop the door, roll it out and make it right. Takes just a few minutes, and the cost was considerably less. My friend says yes, but I have heard that hand laid glass is a lot stronger that chopped. Boat man looks at him and says: " is that car going to be hitting the pavement at 80mph? You do realize how hard water is at that speed don't you?" Friend...point taken. Mike ps you are on your own on the chassis |
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2008, 07:20:42 PM » |
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Mike,
Thank you for your insight, it is greatly appreciated, if you have more, I'm all ears. I will stop by a yacht manufacture on my way home from work and ask them their process and procedures for their fiberglass work. I can understand that "chopping" is a lot cheaper, and for the interested individuals, I think that is what they are after, but the decision won't be made until more feed back is placed. Also, if enough people decide on a donor vehicle, I will modify the exterior to fit it, so there would be strength in the chassis as well.
Re-Cap:
-Boats are made with a chop technique and hold up against hard water... a less expensive route with strength. Interested people in this must give insight to what it is that you want before a decision is made.
-Interested parties still need to come up with a "donor vehicle" as I don't believe there is any chassis jigs, just all of the fiberglass part molds. Fiero, MR2, Other?
Keep me posted... this package is for you builders, not for me, so just let me know what you all want and I'll get it done for you, no worries,
-Hughes
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2008, 09:37:23 AM » |
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wheelbase?
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2008, 02:35:59 PM » |
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Update:
I stopped by a yacht manufacture today and the shop production management said that the facility is booked for a few months on customer orders and that they wouldn't have any time to fit this project into their schedule. So I just left it at that and then noticed a Fiberglass Pools Manufacture, so of course, I stopped. They denied all outside work in their place of business. They said that they only do pools and spas with their molds and will not do any work as a third party. So I guess I will need to search the yellow pages for a fiberglass shop that actually wants to make a few extra dollars on the side.
Green...
The wheel base question is absolutely appropriate, but I actually don't know. I talked to the guy with the molds and asked if I could come look at them this weekend and possibly take a couple with me... he said that isn't a problem, so we may meet up if time allows! I will try to take any measurements I can, and if I can't come up with anything (regarding the wheel base for the molds), I will try searching online for some specs of this car.
You guys still need to inform me of what method of fiberglassing you would like to have done, along with a ball park price (so I know the shop isn't overcharging).
The chassis may be a donor vehicle as there aren't any chassis jigs (I asked the guy today), so I will get the wheel base measurement worked out so we can move from there. Let me know if you are interested... this really isn't the project that I wanted to do for me, so I figured I could offer the chance to all of my friends here. I don't mind helping out this community, I am newer here and have been treated very well thus far... the least I could do is help out anyone interested in this opportunity!
Let me know,
-Hughes
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2008, 02:18:53 AM » |
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Hughes
Speaking for myself here im not really worried how the panels are made, either option I am happy with, as long as there right, as for ball park figure of making them, havent got a clue!
Being in UK our prices will be different anyway,
As for a donor im sure once the panels are about something will be found, very worse can happen is building a spaceframe to accomodate
Keep up the good work mate its all appricated
Garry
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2008, 12:14:14 AM » |
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i will take one if its a fair price
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2008, 12:18:38 AM » |
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i can build the frame or adapt it to a donor, mmmmm we need to talk Hughes
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2008, 11:21:21 AM » |
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Update:
I have stopped by a few fiberglass shops over the last couple of days and found that no facility is looking to take on the side work. I am not exactly sure where to look so I am currently looking into other options to have this package built for you builders out there.
As far as the chassis or donor is concerned, it sounds like Carspancho and I may be able to handle the work. I will get in contact with him and we will see where this package is headed.
Interest:
So far I have two individuals that are honestly interested in this package. One here in the US, but unsure of time frame he will be able to purchase, and one guy in the UK, who will need to set up his budget before anything is purchased.
If there is anyone else that is interested, please contact me.
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Hughes
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2008, 11:31:34 AM » |
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Hughes: I am interested in building another car. Not an exotic look-a-like. I enjoy the fresh design of the Attack and the new technology that they use. If you need a source for making parts, there are plenty of them in the Tampa Bay area. Do you have molds or do they need to be made as well? That will cost big bucks if done correctly. I have a frame fabricator as well. newmdav@aceweb.com if you need additional information. Regards, Dave |
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2008, 12:50:56 PM » |
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Update:
I have stopped by a few fiberglass shops over the last couple of days and found that no facility is looking to take on the side work. I am not exactly sure where to look so I am currently looking into other options to have this package built for you builders out there.
As far as the chassis or donor is concerned, it sounds like Carspancho and I may be able to handle the work. I will get in contact with him and we will see where this package is headed.
Interest:
So far I have two individuals that are honestly interested in this package. One here in the US, but unsure of time frame he will be able to purchase, and one guy in the UK, who will need to set up his budget before anything is purchased.
If there is anyone else that is interested, please contact me.
Thank You,
Hughes
Hughes, if Carspancho is who I think he is, he may be able to help you more than you know, that is unless the two of you have discussed just how much he might be able to help! As Dave has said, there are several on here than have enough connections to get something like this going, and I for one, will tell you that if you can offer kits of this car again, it is going to sell well. Mike |
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2008, 02:03:58 PM » |
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Migwell, Carspancho, Funny Wheels, Turmite, and anyone else...
This all started with a fellow employee offering the molds (every mold to all of the fiberglass body paneling... no frame jig) to me if I wanted, as he isn't going to use them any more and they are just collecting dust. So the molds are already complete and are available to me if I want them. It appears that there is enough interest in this package that I will be talking with him on a good time to pick them up. From what I understand, keeping the cost down in this "kit" industry is almost as important as quality... but quality first.
Everyone is open to answer...
Tube Frame (custom), or Donor Vehicle? Which method would you builders like to see the package available?
I understand that if this was an easy "few day" panel replacement for a donor vehicle, the package might be of more interest to a larger array of builders, and it would keep the cost down significantly... but I am new to this industry and you guys may want to have the tube frame? I am only going to be involved as side work, not as a new business, so whatever I can do to help all of you out there, please, just ask.
-Hughes
PS. If you are new to this thread... I suggest reading from the beginning so you have a better understanding of what is being offered.
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2008, 01:29:11 AM » |
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Remember seeing this years ago when I first got into kit cars and it still looks amazing today  |
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2008, 06:31:06 AM » |
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I think it would require a lot of work on your part to investigate a donor, and since you only intend to do this on the side I would leave chassis to the buyer.
I would only build one on a tube chassis, but for some that is not an option.
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