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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2003, 12:40:29 AM » |
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Dave;
I have a direct pull from a CK3 F355 upper rear convertible portion. I had decided to make my F35 into a convertible and since I live in Calgary, I went to Blaine this past October and received use of his 355 mold for a few pieces I needed to make. I have taken a couple pictures from the piece I have not yet fiberglassed into my rear to see if this is what you are looking for. I quite like the lines of the CK3 convertible portion. The molds are phenominal quality. I can see why they were considered some of the best in the industry at the time.
The above image is of the depth at the back of the recess for the tonneau cover. It says 2 inches if you could read the square I was holding in place.
This image tried to show the length of the recess. The recess is 28" long to the back tip from the front outside ridge where the top rear portion ends at the door opening.
This is the beginning of my work to fit the new convertible piece into what I cut apart when removing the roof. Lots of fiberglassing to go yet.
I am not sure if any of this will be of any use but if you want more, better pictures, reply and I will get a better camera.
Cheers Don
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2003, 10:29:24 AM » |
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While at Daytona this year (Check out "So who is going to Daytona") I looked at several convertible top header attachments. I think we have a winner with a top part produced by Mike Vetter. that uses a Caviler Header and a fiberglass insert Mike designed to have an intergraded top into the header like the OEM 355. I plan to use a header similar to this one and fabricate the balance of my top myself. I want to use a hard seal along the side window glass.
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2003, 07:19:32 PM » |
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Here is how I glassed in my "V" compartment. I discovered foam board and fiberglass. I am using the OEM bolt holes and it is solid. I have only done the top so far. I will remover the 1/4 panel and glass it in from the bottom once I have finished my door return and side air scoop.
Dave
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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2003, 08:05:13 PM » |
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Today was the day. My son Bronson and went to the wrecking yard looking for tops for our Spyder project. We decided on a Mercury Capri, 93 vintage.
Our decision was made on the fact we could modify the top to suit our needs. The GM Sunbird header is just too fat looking across the header. The Capri has a light weight frame and header bar. The header however is 1 3/4 inches too narrow on each side to properly fit the Fiero across the top of the windshield. We can split it in the center and weld in a section to possibly suit our needs. The clamping devise is lightweight like an old VW Rabbit.
The frame along the windows is 7 1/2 inches to long but can be modified to remove the section at the joint above the window by cutting 3 3/4 inches from each side of the frame and re-welding it back together. The top bows are in the same situation but a small pipe made as a tube extension will work there. The key is in keeping the two parts symmetrical so it will fold properly. The mounting bracket that bolts to the side of the Fiero behind the door next to the seat might attach with very little modification. We will have to build a hinge along the trailing side of the window about half way op the glass so the frame will lay properly in the “V” where the top goes when the top is down on the car. The header will face upward behind the seats when finished.
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« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2003, 06:45:57 AM » |
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Can anyone supply a photo of how the sides of the metal framework top assembly hook to the frame of the Fiero behind the door? I am looking for ways to attach the rear anchor points of the top frame and see how others have reinforced the area affected.
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2003, 06:03:52 PM » |
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I welded the heck out of my car to put in a frame "X" brace under it, knee at the rear of the car attached to a frame under the doors and I still get a little firewall sag with all four wheels on the ground. Has anyone put any flat plates into the cockpit to keep the "B" pillar from flexing?
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2003, 07:46:47 AM » |
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I found a way to stiffen the firewall of a Fiero Spyder. I put a length of 1 X 2 rectangular steel tubing across the cockpit area above the computer box between the sides of the car. Then I braced the Fire wall of the Fiero to the Shock Tower with a length of 1/2 inch square tubing. This took 90% of the flex out of the car. I attached the brace from the shock tower to the old Fiero trunk hinge mount. It looks clean and is simple to do.
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2003, 09:36:01 AM » |
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Dave, When you get a moment, can you send me the details on what you have done for both the convertable top and also to move the winshield. No rush on this but as you know I am going with Johns kit with the ferrari style windshield.
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2003, 07:20:53 PM » |
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Dave, When you get a moment, can you send me the details on what you have done for both the convertable top and also to move the winshield. No rush on this but as you know I am going with Johns kit with the ferrari style windshield.
Glenn: I will send you some information later in the week. Still working some things out. Dave
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2003, 07:32:18 PM » |
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After extensive bracing, I still can't get all of the flex out of the car. When I jack it up the door gap opens about 1/4 inch and binds the door. I spoke to a few people who built Corson kits on a Fiero chassis. I have an "X" frame, side rails, shock tower bracing, firewall reinforcement, and cockpit triangulation. Everything is tight with the exception of the top of the Fiero chassis “B” pillar where the top was removed is beefed up.
The Corson builders told me that to prevent the cut off portion of the Fiero from swelling out like a football when the weight of the car is on the chassis (all 4 wheels on the ground it has to be capped off with a piece of steel and welded solid.
Has anyone ever experienced this challenge?
And have you actually corrected it?
Dave
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2003, 07:01:44 AM » |
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Maybe welding the roof back on the car to stiffen the darn thing up.
This weekend I added a little more bracing. I placed a length of 1/2 inch square tubing just forward of the brake handle back to the corner of the rear firewall and got a little more stiffness. The brace formed a triangle and does not interfere with the entrance and exit from the car. The door gap only closes up 1/8 inch now eliminating 1/4 inch of play at the top of the door jam. Tonight I will weld a cap over the top of the chassis where I removed the top. That will eliminate the flex in that area and it might cure the problem.
Will keep you posted.
Dave
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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2003, 08:18:01 AM » |
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This brace worked. It is welded to the "X" brace, the side of the door "B" pillar, the rear of the fire wall, the dog leg support and the top rear frame over the rear wheel. No more door sag. A little panel and carpet and the brace will become part of the interior. I need the carpet of this will become a butt buster ever time we get into the car.
Dave
Now on to the top and related fabrication.
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« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2003, 09:05:32 PM » |
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Funnywhels et al.
I was out at a local Fiero club meeting tonight presenting the progress I have made on my kit so far and there was a convertible Fiero there.
I had a REALLY good look at how it was put together and I asked the owner if he would mind if I took a pile of pictures for you all.
I am going to see about getting him over this weekend to take the pics so I can post them on here and send to anyone that wants them. The top ends up folding up on to the rear deck lid but I think a lot of the mount points and some of the hinging might be able to be used and adjusted to make the top come down more cleanly on to the firewall area.
Hopefully have some tinng for you by the end of the weekend.
Don
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« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2003, 09:10:53 PM » |
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Don:
That is some welcome news. I am cutting up my Capri top as we speak. I could use some ideas on the sides over the windows. I want to put a hinge in the center of the side window on the top and one on the trailing edge of the window so I can get it to fold up partially behind the seats. Also thought of using your power top ideas with the seat motor.
Dave
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« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2003, 09:25:22 PM » |
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Dave;
That sounds like a reasonable idea to me. The only thing with this top on the Fiero is it does not have a hinge in the middle of the top so the top folds back okay but it goes out over the rear engine cover quite a way.
Pics will help explain what I am talking about.
Don
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