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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2008, 12:54:13 PM »

OK this is 2 layers, its only got slight movement in it. This took yet again only 5 mins with a UV light to CURE


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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2008, 02:42:11 PM »

Goldie,
I am very interested in this.  I build alot of parts and I am starting to do some bodies now.  Can you use this material to make tooling or molds?   Please put me on your list for samples or give me a minimum to buy and I can check it out.    It their any literature and what is the availability in the US?   
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2008, 02:51:08 PM »

OK this is 2 layers, its only got slight movement in it. This took yet again only 5 mins with a UV light to CURE




That is amazing Goldie....

Is this stuff only availiable in the UK?  Anyone here in the US know of a supplier?   Hats off to Goldie for this find, I owe you a pint mate.

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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2008, 03:00:05 PM »

Hi

Its only in the UK Sad

Min order is £130 that gets you 10 metres x 65 inches wide.

Its amazing stuff

And you can even run a rivet through it with NO cracking.

Had an email saying I can buy trade price from them running through my company as we will be buying alot. £120 not bad I guess.

Its going to save us alot of time.
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2008, 05:14:31 PM »

wow this stuff looks great, seems like it molds a nice part!!!  I am sure it can but can this be painted???  lets see £130 = 5000 USD  Tongue  anyway.. do you have any plans on stocking this material and selling it off in smaller batches? hint hint hint
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2008, 02:26:18 AM »

Yeah it can be painted its fibreglass just in a whole new style:)

I was thinking of buying alot and selling small parts. It would cost to much to ship a whole roll as its massive and weighs alot:( which is bad for you state side guys Sad

wow this stuff looks great, seems like it molds a nice part!!!  I am sure it can but can this be painted???  lets see £130 = 5000 USD  Tongue  anyway.. do you have any plans on stocking this material and selling it off in smaller batches? hint hint hint
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2008, 06:03:20 AM »

wow this stuff looks great, seems like it molds a nice part!!!  I am sure it can but can this be painted???  lets see £130 = 5000 USD  Tongue  anyway.. do you have any plans on stocking this material and selling it off in smaller batches? hint hint hint

mmmm.....I'm not sure your numbers are correct. I just pulled this off the net.   "1 British pound = 1.7278 U.S. dollars"

Now maybe that 130 is not in British Pounds, but I think it is. At the listed rate exchange the cost to US users would be less than $225, not counting shipping of course.

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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2008, 06:05:47 AM »

Not to sure what shipping will be. I guess maybe 80/120 usd but id say its so worth it.

wow this stuff looks great, seems like it molds a nice part!!!  I am sure it can but can this be painted???  lets see £130 = 5000 USD  Tongue  anyway.. do you have any plans on stocking this material and selling it off in smaller batches? hint hint hint

mmmm.....I'm not sure your numbers are correct. I just pulled this off the net.   "1 British pound = 1.7278 U.S. dollars"

Now maybe that 130 is not in British Pounds, but I think it is. At the listed rate exchange the cost to US users would be less than $225, not counting shipping of course.

Mike
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2008, 10:16:55 AM »

Drilled into it.

NO CRACKS, NO SPLITS

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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2008, 11:40:20 AM »

Goldie,

I was wondering if temperature was a variable in this products cure, or is it only UV light?  With Aerospace Advanced Composites, we use a product termed "Pre-Preg" that is in reference to the carbon cloth being impregnated with an epoxy resin.  Depending upon the epoxy specifications, the material will cure at different temperatures for different lengths of time.  In this, we use ovens and autoclaves for our panel curing.

Do you have a material specification sheet describing the working temperatures, shelf life, or any test ratings?  At General Atomics we have a complete testing department that runs current material tests.  If you'd like, I can talk to my friend that manages that department and have some tests run on this product so to give you tensile strength ratings, deflection ratings, etc. if you'd like?

Let me know,
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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2008, 01:45:12 PM »

is this actually a grp product or is it similar to the roofing and pipe patch material that is more of a plastic than a glassfibre product like curv or curon? as i think the tensile strength of these will mean it doesnt produce car panels. if im right handlaid grp is stongest when it has less resin to mat mix (too a point) think its called consolidated when its right so these curon system has a much higher polymer to chopped strand ratio, that said i have no idea of what difference it actually makes just what i read!
got a question on the cnc thing so ill ask on that line.
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2008, 01:56:14 PM »

 What's the resistance of that materials? For example, how it reacts on the hot sun, and whether it changes the strength/shape characteristics after year or two? That's very important when you make car body panels. I hate the smell of fiberglass, so hopefully I can find something better.
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2008, 01:59:44 PM »

Zarni

Its perfect for car panels and ive seen a few already produced from it Smiley

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It doesnt change shape in heat and its strength is better than carbon fibre.

What's the resistance of that materials? For example, how it reacts on the hot sun, and whether it changes the strength/shape characteristics after year or two? That's very important when you make car body panels. I hate the smell of fiberglass, so hopefully I can find something better.
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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2008, 02:51:53 PM »


It doesnt change shape in heat and its strength is better than carbon fibre.

What's the resistance of that materials? For example, how it reacts on the hot sun, and whether it changes the strength/shape characteristics after year or two? That's very important when you make car body panels. I hate the smell of fiberglass, so hopefully I can find something better.

 Thanks for the reply. If it's really stronger than carbon fiber, I will be glad to see a simple crash test of some example A-pillar made from that material hitting a steel tube. Hint below:
 http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6763/apillarnd0.png
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« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2008, 02:55:46 PM »

This is the makers claim not mine Smiley


It doesnt change shape in heat and its strength is better than carbon fibre.

What's the resistance of that materials? For example, how it reacts on the hot sun, and whether it changes the strength/shape characteristics after year or two? That's very important when you make car body panels. I hate the smell of fiberglass, so hopefully I can find something better.

 Thanks for the reply. If it's really stronger than carbon fiber, I will be glad to see a simple crash test of some example A-pillar made from that material hitting a steel tube. Hint below:
 http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6763/apillarnd0.png
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