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« on: August 14, 2008, 02:44:41 PM »

so you know i got the 328 replica and i have another post about the engine. so this time im asking what the best engine is for the car. i would like a powerful engine say 280 to 300 hp and one that would give a good exotic/ferrari sound with a 328 exhaust
this is in there now a 350 chevy v8.

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 02:48:23 PM »

http://www.kitcarsforum.com/the-mall/perfect-engine-swap-for-a-fiero-3800-supercharged-series-iii-w-trans/
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 02:51:48 PM »

Without a doubt.... The 3800... not Series II but the upgraded Series III.   Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 04:12:59 PM »

Without a doubt.... The 3800... not Series II but the upgraded Series III.   Shocked
so if i had a 4 speed in the car will this engine work and will it give a good exotic sound
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 04:59:36 PM »

thats what im doing
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 04:27:01 AM »

I'm located in Ontario also.. I have done many 3800 swaps into fiero's with the 4 speed tranny. Where in Ontario are you from?

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 09:26:12 AM »

I'm located in Ontario also.. I have done many 3800 swaps into fiero's with the 4 speed tranny. Where in Ontario are you from?

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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 12:56:27 PM »

I've read this topic and the other concerning the 348 engine- and as stated in that topic, you seem to be all too willing to spend a lot of money for not much in net worth. You're swapping out a 350 motor (that had cost 10k+) to install, with the additional cost of a 3800 motor swap (6k+) - for what? Don't get me wrong, I have a 86 308 replica with the stock 2.8l motor and would like to improve the car too- but you're investing too much money in a car that won't be worth the effort. Why not (as stated in the other forum) just buy nice 308 for $30k and sell the replica that you're dissatisfied with. That way you would reclaim some of your investment and end up with a more valuable end product. Or figure out what you really don't like about the 350 replica. You can't tell me it's not fast enough- and all a 3800 swap will give you is a lighter wallet. You're not increasing horsepower, maybe an improvement in handling and yes a different sound, but still not like and actual ferrari.     
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 01:05:17 PM »

I've read this topic and the other concerning the 348 engine- and as stated in that topic, you seem to be all too willing to spend a lot of money for not much in net worth. You're swapping out a 350 motor (that had cost 10k+) to install, with the additional cost of a 3800 motor swap (6k+) - for what? Don't get me wrong, I have a 86 308 replica with the stock 2.8l motor and would like to improve the car too- but you're investing too much money in a car that won't be worth the effort. Why not (as stated in the other forum) just buy nice 308 for $30k and sell the replica that you're dissatisfied with. That way you would reclaim some of your investment and end up with a more valuable end product. Or figure out what you really don't like about the 350 replica. You can't tell me it's not fast enough- and all a 3800 swap will give you is a lighter wallet. You're not increasing horsepower, maybe an improvement in handling and yes a different sound, but still not like and actual ferrari.     
well then what stuff can i do to the engine to make it sound good
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 01:45:18 PM »

It seems like sound is your main concern- but can you be very percise what you're getting at. As stated in other forums concerning sound, a V8 by its very nature will sound like what it is- regardless of exhaust. A V8 has a lower rumble then the high pitched rev/whine of other engines. You can change the cam, the bore & stroke of the engine- and you will get a variation of a V8 sound, but why is that soo important. You have a nice looking car (body won't rust), parts are reasonable, performance (with a 350) is above that of most.
  From Pennock fiero forum and Archie's thread (a builder of V8 fiero's) is the sound of a V8 that I think you might enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQLut_i6t8s 
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 04:19:33 PM »

It seems like sound is your main concern- but can you be very percise what you're getting at. As stated in other forums concerning sound, a V8 by its very nature will sound like what it is- regardless of exhaust. A V8 has a lower rumble then the high pitched rev/whine of other engines. You can change the cam, the bore & stroke of the engine- and you will get a variation of a V8 sound, but why is that soo important. You have a nice looking car (body won't rust), parts are reasonable, performance (with a 350) is above that of most.
  From Pennock fiero forum and Archie's thread (a builder of V8 fiero's) is the sound of a V8 that I think you might enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQLut_i6t8s 
do you have a video of a regular v8 low sound.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 07:11:59 PM »

On the web site 'you tube' type in-  V8 fiero  -for the search argument and you will get 5 pages of V8's. Because of the torque of a 350 you usually don't rev past 5 grand (where you would start to get the sound of a motor whine/howl). What those other engines do is rev the piss out of themselves to achieve (in performance) what a 350 can do at 2500 rpm. But that to me is the benefit of the 350 - you don't have to rev (stress) the motor to achieve the same results. I had a 68 427 vette with 308 gears in the rear end and I was able to cruise on the freeway all day at 2+ grand, an idle speed compared to other engines. My bike was bored, blueprinted and balanced  - ran like a bat out of hell - sounded wicked with an open header - but I used to run it up to 12 grand - not good for the pocketbook or for tickets. My McBurnie Daytona has a 383 stroker motor and it runs and sounds great - i.e. like a V8 thats stroked. What I'm trying to say is be happy with what you got - it sounds like what it is - to change it (which won't be totally possible) will cost you more money and effort then what its worth.     
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