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« on: August 16, 2008, 10:56:27 AM »

Do not use American Express! If you are relying on them be very careful. They just messed me over royally, and if they did this to me a perfect customer with perfect credit I can only imagine what they would do to someone with less then stellar credit.

I had an account with a $23,000 limit, always payed on time never ever have been a problem customer to Amex or any other credit agency. Today I get a letter in the mail saying your credit limit has been reduced to $6,900. I had a balance of $6,700 on the card. They smessed me over and dropped my credit score at the same time. I was extremely livid and jumped on the internet to see that they are doing this to a lot of their customers that have higher limits. A lot of posts on the internet said they would blame the credit reporting bureaus for the actions they had to take. Sure enough when I called thats exactly what they spewed. Then she claimed one of the reasons was to delinquency, I NEVER made a late payment in my life. In fact most of my payments are large anywhere from $500-1000 a moth. I am a large spender and charge a lot on the cards and always make big payments.

I was so mad and they were practically begging me not to cancel and I told them I cant wait for the second I am no longer an American Express customer and I will never in my life use American Express. Then they tried to argue that I would lose my over 100K points when the account closes, I told them I want nothing to do with Amex they can keep their points! They finally canceled, I also made them take all the balance out of my checking account immediately so they dont acquire another cent from me. Thats my rant and i'm sticking to it!
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 11:17:19 AM »

I have also be messed over by American Excess. A vendor overcharged me $870.00 for a Bed and Breakfast stay in St. Augustine, Florida. The Powder House Inn to be exact. We went back and forth with correspondence for over 2 months. I proved everything in writing. Guess what, they backed up the vendor.  We have no limit on our cards so I purchased cars and other large ticket items on occasion as well. Never late on any payments etc.

I am in the process of cashing in 570,821 points this week (that's a lot of Home Depot Gift Cards) before I cancel it next week. My average charge is in the area of $4,000 - $10,000 per month (since 1984). I pay $180 per year for the privilege of using their car to buy stuff, I also pay $60 per year to have a card for my lovely wife, plus $50 for each of the cards to accumulate points. (that is $330 per year plus earning one point for every dollar spent). That is over $7,000 paid since 1984.

I am debt free and this will only add to our cash in the bank. Guess what we did before American Excess? Yep, paid cash.  That save us money and saves the vendors 4-5% out of their pockets as well.

American Excess, Hear this, I am done as well. I don't need to pay your fees for the privilege of using your card. I now leave home without it.

Dave
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 10:27:29 PM »

I gave up on AMEX in the 90's.  Never backed me up, regardless of whatever proof I provided.  Basically, they choose to increase their (rapidly declining) accepting merchant numbers over their card users. They didn't consider me the customer, the merchant that paid the 3% fee for taking the card is their customer.  It's way more money than all the card holder fees.  The trick was getting us to think WE were the valued customer. Membership does have it's privileges, we just weren't in the club  Wink
I pay cash only now and have for everything but the house and a few of the cars.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 06:23:09 AM »

The credit crunch is to blame... Most credit card issuers are cutting down credit lines of their customers, because of the way they use to increase these lines weren't based on solid or accurate guide lines. It was pretty much a free-for-all for anyone with a credit card. It's much easier to cut everyone's limits and then sort it all out, than to attempt to sort through it now and continue to get burned for large amounts in the process. They feel that once all high risk card holders have been identified, they can gradually raise the limits of those that don't fit the profile of a high risk. And if they've decided to forfeit  their card they'll try to lure you back with some type of incentives. It stinks, but it's the world we live in.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 06:29:38 AM »

i quit using my credit cards long ago!
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 08:29:41 AM »

i quit using my credit cards long ago!

This is the only way to avoid being taken advantage of by this legalized form of loan sharking.

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 09:56:35 AM »

There are too many issues to post here but you are far better without using credit cards and never, never use a debit card for anything but a cash card at your atm.  You will have thousands of flawless transactions but when there is finally an issue, you will  be treated as a theif.  I used AMEX OPEN for my business for years UNTIL, well let's just say that not only do I not use AMEX but they are not accepted at either of my businesses.  I don't think much more of any of the others like visa and mastercard either.  I only have one card with a low limit for situations where they are required like hotel reservations.  You need to stop using credit cards even if you pay it off at the end of every month because not only are you making these legalized loan sharks a lot of money, they are also selling your buying habits and tracking your everypurchase to sell to venders to take more of your money.  CASH, CASH the only way to do business.  Small businesses like mine will give you better pricing on cash because we don't have to wait on the funds to show up or loose 1.5-4% of the transaction.  For those of you who don't know, when you charge $100 item on card "X",  the vender then gets paid a week later, direct deposit, but he only gets $96 (Example for 4%, which when I quit AMEX it was 3.95% plus rounded down to the nearest dollar) plus monthly access and machine fees.   
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 07:19:47 PM »

Bartman: I agree whole heartedly. I have a simple life since I started paying cash for 90% of my purchases years ago. I did use American Excess for business until I read ab book by Dave Ramsey called total money makeover. It changed my life.

Check it out sometime at Daveramsey.com

Regards,

Dave
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 07:34:21 PM »

Never had a Credit Card and never want one, if I can not pay cash for something then I will save for it. I do not see the point of keeping my money in the bank earning 0.02% pa and charged bank fees and when I use a CC I have to pay 15% to 23% in interest to the bank. The banks are criminals and I am not giving them more of my hard earnt money, they STEAL bank fees from me and that is as much as they are getting.
And just to add to your comment, the laws are set up to help lenders steal from all of us. And then when lenders make bad realestate loans the government bails them out and we get to pay for their greed with our tax dolars. I don't recall them sharing their hefty profits with us...Makes you think eh!
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 07:58:52 PM »

Banks are little more than Government sanctioned counterfitters.
They don't actually reach into the vault to hand you someone else's deposited money when you get a loan.
They just type some digits into a computer account and .... ABBRA CADABRA!...they just made money out of thin air and then loan it to you at interest (that you have to pay back with "real" money you had to work to get, none of that computer money they gave you.)  They are allowed to "loan" out up to $9. for every "real" dollar they are holding for someone in deposits.  The real funny thing is: We spend the "loan", the seller deposits the cash in their bank at the end of the day, their bank can now "loan" out $9. more than they could before for every $1. of that deposit too. It's a vicious circle floating the fake money around, and loaning out more and more based on the first original "loan", that was not money at all. Huh Angry
What ticked me off was when "Uncle Ben" at the Fed bailed out his friends by just printing more $ and handing it to them so they could make their Ferrari, and penthouse condo payments when they didn't get the big "payoff" because their counterfit money "loans" didn't get paid back with hard earned dollars. NOW, the dollar I worked for is worth less (worthless?) because the supply and demand numbers have been manipulated due to the "new" money that got added to the pot. Each dollar is now worth less because there are more of them than there was before. It will always be about fractions of 100%.  The more they print, the smaller percentage of the whole pie my dollar represents, and the more of them they want for the stuff I buy because of it.  The big bonus is that these crooks got the cash as it was printed and got to use it before the market adjusted to the new supply number and raised prices accordingly.
I have to stop now, before I get riled up and Dave has to "shush" me again. Grin
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 08:08:09 PM »

Now class pls repeat after me "Credit cards are the devil!!". Grin
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 08:18:24 PM »

i have to rely on one of these as most of what i'm buying now require pay pal..without one, i cant apply pay pal...
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 08:25:10 PM »

Paypal takes debit cards too.
I'm a Ebay-a-holic and it comes right out of an account at my bank that is separate from my regular account when I use my Mastercard/debit card.
If there is any "funny" business, I notify the bank, cancel THAT card and any incoming charges, and they issue me a new one.

DON'T PAY INTEREST.
INTEREST, BAD.
SAVING MONEY, GOOD.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 08:41:12 PM »

I hear ya.  There was a time in my life, when I was younger, I bought into that "credit card status" crud. All it got me was in a hole I couldn't see my way out of for 15yrs.  Cash or money order only now for last decade. If I want it I either buy it, or save for it.  I taught my kids about my bad choices as a young person.  Maybe they won't end up in "voluntary" servitude to some loan shark.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 09:55:17 PM »

I have been an AMEX card holder for more than 30 years and my primary card does not even have a limit.  A couple of months ago they even increased my credit limit for a Smiley Delta Sky Miles card that I use for airline tickets.  In addition, they have backed me every time I have had a merchant dispute.  I also spend $4 to $6K per month but pay the bil lin full every month just like I do with any other card.  Credit cards can cause trouble, but when they are paid in each month, it is just like using cash in my book.  If they caused me trouble, I would drop this card in a heartbeat, but so far, so good.
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